Shain Filcher, Esq. (they/he/she), Executive Director of the LGBT Bar of NY sits down with Deborah Lolai, Esq. (she/her), Clinical Instructor at Harvard Law School's LGBTQ+ Advocacy Clinic and Adjunct Assistant Professor at Columbia School of Social Work to discuss Deborah's near decade of experience as a Public Defender and Founding Director of the LGBTQ Defense Project at The Bronx Defenders, the challenges LGBTQ+ people face at all stages of prosecution within the criminal legal system, career changes, and how academia can serve to enhance social justice movements.