Zöe Chappelear is a horse trainer from Burbank, Oklahoma. The wife of former guest, Derek Chappelear, Zöe runs her business out of K Barr C Ranch. Zöe joins Joe to share the story of her horsemanship education, the growing of her business and her goals for the future. Topics discussed include getting wholistic education in the horse industry, what it looks like to grow a training business and the importance of letting horses think for themselves.