The Stuff Between

Dec 28 2021

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Formerly The Best Podcast Ever Michelle and Kumi are journalists who met on Twitter and became friends. They're both curious, and concerned, about why the left and the right is so polarised and why the murky, grey areas of life are not being discussed. So, they dig in every week and chat off-the-cuff about the stuff between. They don't always agree, but that's OK. And their music taste differs - but is truly impeccable.

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While You Were Sleeping: Lucky Dip

Dec 28 2021 28 mins

It's the end of a long year (two years?) and the girls decide to riff, like a good old music jam. They throw a bunch of thought bubbles into the pot, from tapioca plastics to Kobe Bryant. Michelle opens up about the death of her dear friend and a letter he left her. They wind up the poddy season with a few cranking feel-good tracks. New season, February 2022. Until then, stay safe

While You Were Sleeping: Power Hungry

Dec 21 2021 28 mins

The girls jump into the environmental cost of our digital lives, and it's not just our phones and electronics. This is mining on a massive scale: Bitcoin, AI, tapping our payments - they all need huge amounts of power. The stats are kinda eye-opening. Their tracks this week are open-hearted and have a similar vibe.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

While You Were Sleeping: Green Fatigue

Dec 13 2021 29 mins

Kumi rocks up with her decaf in a disposable cup which kickstarts a chat about whether small changes actually make a difference. The girls dig into green fatigue and the bigger picture: global emissions fell during the pandemic - except for one big behemoth of a company. Their emissions rose 19 percent (hint, online shopping). Oh, the tracks this week are sweeeeet.See omnystudio.co

While You Were Sleeping: Your Health According To

Dec 07 2021 29 mins

A lot has been bubbling away when it comes to vaccines. There are protests around mandates, concerns about vaccine equity, and China is taking its own approach to the pandemic. The girls ask whether all this noise is really about jabs - or is there something else going on? Their music picks could not be more different this week which is a good thing - cos variety, spice of life stu

While You Were Sleeping: Over Dosed

Nov 30 2021 27 mins

ICYMI, there's been a pandemic going on and it’s had a big impact on health, especially addiction. It’s prompted a rise in opioid abuse which hasn’t been helped by the new bad boy in town, Fentanyl. And as usual the girls have two great tracks to add to your playlist. email - [email protected] Spotify Playlist - https://open.spotify.com/playlis

While You Were Sleeping: Computer Says What?

Nov 23 2021 31 mins

It's the Android versus iPhone chat everyone's been waiting for as the girls get stuck into a tech-filled half hour. It's the Metaverse though, that really has them both wondering what the hell is going on and what we need to do prepare. And while it all seems a bit futuristic it wasn’t that long ago we were asking what the internet was. Both music tracks are oldies but

While You Were Sleeping: Incels

Nov 16 2021 29 mins

Michelle leaps straight into a bit of Fifty Shades of Grey chat, for no reason whatsoever. After Kumi pulls herself together, they delve into the growing world of Incels, 'involuntary celibates'. But, this is not about sex. It's about misogyny and male power and it's been going on, and thriving, while our focus has been elsewhere. Michelle plays a rocking Aussie track, while Kumi o

While You Were Sleeping: Supply Chains

Nov 09 2021 31 mins

Remember the ship that was stuck in the Suez Canal? Yes, it was great fodder for memes but it highlighted how much rests on the supply chain operating smoothly. In the first episode of this new series, Michelle and Kumi look at why getting products from A to B has become so much harder for some, and so much easier for others. Plus, they dig out a few great tracks. And still need yo

Shame Less

Nov 02 2021 28 mins

The girls jump into the culture of shaming - it's pretty bad these days, right? - and they ask what responsibility news organisations have to those whose reputations have been destroyed. They're also embracing the pivot and are rebranding! From next episode there'll be new artwork, a new poddy name, but the same incomparable wit, sassy chat and amazing music picks. Oh, and this wee

To Cancel Or Not To Cancel

Oct 26 2021 35 mins

The girls chat cancel culture while tapping our toe into the idea of shame. Should great art be boycotted, if we don't agree with the artist? Some eclectic music picks, with Kumi revealing her rock side - she likes to think she's cool. While Michell has fallen off the wagon, or on it. No one really knows. Oh, and in the vibe of 2021, they're pivoting their poddy. email - weneedvali