The Pact

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It started with the 2014 disappearance of an Upper Michigan man named Chris Regan. The two-year investigation into his disappearance would take authorities on a strange journey into a world of sex, drugs, pig farming, alleged cannibalism, and serial murder; all stemming from a wedding day pact between Kelly and Jason Cochran, that resulted in the murder of at least two men. Investigative reporter, Josh Hallmark, dives through thousands of case files and dozens of hours of interviews with Kelly to make sense of the breadth of her crimes and her often contradictory stories, in hopes of identifying her additional victims she's refused to name... if there even are any.

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Feb 22 2023 1 mins  
It started with the 2014 disappearance of an Upper Michigan man named Chris Regan. The two-year investigation into his disappearance would take authorities on a strange journey into a world of sex, drugs, pig farming, alleged cannibalism, and serial murder; all stemming from a wedding day pact between Kelly and Jason Cochran, that resulted in the murder of at least two men. Investi

1. The Pact

Mar 15 2023 38 mins  
On the night of Kelly Cochran's wedding, her husband Jason forced her to agree to a pact: That if she ever cheated on him, she'd have to kill the man she cheated with. That pact would result in the deaths of at least 9 people.This is a Studio BOTH/AND production:www.pactpodcast.com / www.bothand.fyiFor an ad-free experience or to support the show: www.patreon.com/studiobothandMusic

2. Hunters & Gatherers

Mar 22 2023 39 mins  
Phone records, discrepancies in Kelly Cochran's statements, search warrants, and several interviews lead to some shocking revelations surrounding Chris Regan's disappearance. Plus, criminal psychologist, Joni Johnston, discusses female psychopaths. This is a Studio BOTH/AND production:www.pactpodcast.com / www.bothand.fyiFor an ad-free experience or to support the show: www.patreon

3. Baby Bird

Mar 29 2023 34 mins  
Investigators and psychologists try to get to the bottom of which Cochran was abusing the other. Chief Frizzo works with the FBI and an unlikely informant to coerce Kelly into confessing. And Kelly hits the road, again. This is a Studio BOTH/AND production:www.pactpodcast.com / www.bothand.fyiFor an ad-free experience or to support the show: www.patreon.com/studiobothandWritten, re

4. Two Women

Apr 05 2023 43 mins  
Kelly discusses a third murder. Josh takes a look at the two women at the center of this case, and how their lives were affected and intertwined by it. This is a Studio BOTH/AND production:www.pactpodcast.com / www.bothand.fyiFor an ad-free experience or to support the show: www.patreon.com/studiobothandWritten, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. Music by William He

5. Quack Quack, Oink Oink

Apr 12 2023 42 mins  
The trial of Kelly Cochran reveals shocking information about Kelly and Jason, discerns Kelly's truth from lies, and begins painting a clear picture of the Cochrans' killing spree. Plus, we take a closer look at Jason's manuscript. This is a Studio BOTH/AND production:www.pactpodcast.com / www.bothand.fyiFor an ad-free experience or to support the show: www.patreon.com/studiobothan

6. Mississippi Street

Apr 19 2023 29 mins  
The investigation into Jason and Kelly Cochran's other crimes begins with a look into their time in Indiana; revealing some strange and shocking connections. This is a Studio BOTH/AND production:www.pactpodcast.com / www.bothand.fyiFor an ad-free experience or to support the show: www.patreon.com/studiobothandWritten, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. Music by Will

7. Laura

Apr 26 2023 94 mins  
She may be the only living person to truly know Kelly Cochran. Laura Frizzo talks the Cochrans, David Thayer, the glass ceiling, and how this case has impacted her life. This is a Studio BOTH/AND production:www.pactpodcast.com / www.bothand.fyiFor an ad-free experience or to support the show: www.patreon.com/studiobothandWritten, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. M

8. Rotten Love

May 03 2023 43 mins  
If Laura Frizzo knows Kelly best, then Walt Ammerman probably knew Jason best. We get to know Jason through an interview with friend and eventual informant, Walt. Then we explore Kelly's Facebook and its odd parallels to her crimes, and an unsolved Indiana homicide and its odd parallels to Chris Regan's murder. This is a Studio BOTH/AND production:www.pactpodcast.com / www.bothand.

9. Inside

May 17 2023 28 mins  
Josh goes inside the investigation into Kelly Cochran, revealing new information, new links, and a possible timeline. And the investigation itself raises some important questions about what authorities do and don't know. Next episode: 24 May 2023This is a Studio BOTH/AND production:www.pactpodcast.com / www.bothand.fyiFor an ad-free experience or to support the show: www.patreon.co