At Last She Said It

Mar 11 2025 215 ep. 56 mins 468
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At Last She Said It is a podcast that seeks to amplify and explore a variety of voices, stories, ideas and experiences of Mormon women.

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Episode 215: Let's Talk About Shibboleths

Mar 11 2025 70 mins  
Shibboleths are customs, traditions, words, or phrasings that distinguish one group of people from another. Latter-day Saints have a lot of unique identifiers. Garment lines, beverage choices, vocabulary, or prayer styles might serve as reliable clues to whether or not someone belongs to our church. In Episode 215, Cynthia and Susan talk about some of these shibboleths and how they

Episode 214: Changemakers | A Conversation with McArthur Krishna and Anne Pimentel

Mar 04 2025 69 mins  
“Wouldn’t it be a good idea to have a book about girls who ask great questions?” This question from a 9-year-old inspired authors McArthur Krishna and Anne Pimentel to create their book Changemakers: Women Who Boldly Built Zion. By highlighting women’s stories, the book affirms our roles in building, growing, and sustaining the Church—influencing organization, policy, and

Episode 213: Introverts in an Extrovert's Church

Feb 25 2025 85 mins  
“What is it like to be an introvert in a church that really supports extroversion?" When therapist C.A. Larson asked this question in a previous episode, it was a lightbulb moment for many listeners. Through voicemails, emails, and on social media, women of the ALSSI community reported feeling seen, and understanding their own church experiences in a new way. In Episode 213, Susa

Episode 212: Embracing Your Journey | A Conversation with Kathie Debenham

Feb 18 2025 58 mins  
“My faith is this process of evolving, ebbing, flowing, forming, reforming, shaping, shape shifting,” explains Kathie Debenham. It’s no surprise that she describes her faith as a moving thing; as a dancer, her education includes a graduate certification focused on “observing, describing, recording, and making meaning of movement.” In Episode 212, Kathie joins Susan and Cy

Episode 211: Who's the Decider? | A Conversation with Natalie Brown

Feb 11 2025 60 mins  
When asked about the possibility of priesthood ordination for women in 1998, Pres. Gordon B. Hinckley famously told Larry King, “It would take another revelation to bring that about. I don’t anticipate it.” Big changes have come following revelations in LDS history, but must prophetic revelation always precede change? Even on a local level, many leaders are hesitant to innova

Episode 210: Marriage Edition Part 2 | A(nother) Conversation with Dr. Jennifer Bird

Feb 04 2025 57 mins  
In Part 2 of the conversation about biblical marriage, Susan and Cynthia ask Dr. Jennifer Bird about virginity, purity culture, and—of course!—biblical polygamy. Joseph Smith drew on polygamy in the Hebrew Bible to justify instituting the practice in early Mormonism, teaching that sometimes God not only condoned but actually mandated it. So what does a feminist biblical scholar

Episode 209: Does That Scripture Mean What You Think it Means? Marriage Edition | A Conversation with Dr. Jennifer Bird

Jan 28 2025 53 mins  
“If we want to look at this sacred collection called the Bible as our guide, let's be really clear and honest about what it was saying on its own terms first, then leave it up to everyone to figure out what we're going to do with that, because we're going to do different things with it,” suggests Dr. Jennifer Bird. In Episode 209, she joins Susan and Cynthia for part one of a c

Episode 208: Patriarchy 101 | A Conversation with Amy McPhie Allebest

Jan 21 2025 71 mins  
Latter-day Saints have a complicated relationship with the word patriarchy. We reverence it, including variations in some of our highest callings and ordinances, yet many members won’t touch it in a discussion of women’s rights or organizational equality. So how can we have meaningful conversations about it with other Church members? Amy McPhie Allebest says, “There are two w

Episode 207: What About Religiosity, Violence and Abuse? | A Conversation with Dr. Susan Madsen

Jan 14 2025 68 mins  
When it comes to talking about abuse and violence against women, “You have to become comfortable with being uncomfortable,” explains Susan Madsen. In Episode 207, Dr. Madsen joins Susan and Cynthia for a conversation about the link between religiosity and abuse, and the power disparity that fosters it. Even where the Church is strongest, the statistics are troubling, to say the

Episode 206: Embracing Your Journey | A Conversation with Darice Auston

Jan 07 2025 62 mins  
“How many things have to happen to you before something occurs to you," says Darice Auston, quoting Robert Frost. In Episode 206, Darice joins Cynthia and Susan to share some of the things that have occurred to her, and where those insights are leading her now. It's a conversation that illustrates the ways our unique experiences can shape and inform our spiritual life and church