Frontend First

Nov 14 2024 200 ep. 59 mins 272

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A podcast about modern UI development on the web. Hosted by Sam Selikoff and Ryan Toronto.

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Exploring useActionState

Nov 14 2024 59 mins

Sam and Ryan talk about React 19's useActionState hook. They discuss how adding async functions to a plain React app introduces lots of in-between states that developers must grapple with, and how useActionState allows React to collapse and eliminate these states, bringing the simplicity of React's sync mental model to our async code.

Cloudflare Tunnel | React Compiler | refs during render

Oct 31 2024 42 mins

Sam and Ryan talk about using Cloudflare Tunnel for local development, the new React Compiler beta release, and why reading or writing refs during render violates the rules of React.

useAnimatedText | Events vs. State Changes | Catalyst

Oct 24 2024 68 mins

Sam and Ryan talk about building a useAnimatedText hook that can animate streaming text. They also discuss how React code that uses state changes to approximate events can be simplified, and the benefits of having escape hatches when building UI with Catalyst.

Can you self-host Next.js?

Oct 10 2024 58 mins

Sam and Ryan talk about how frameworks and infrastructure evolve with each other, using Next.js as a representative example. They discuss how hosting providers like Heroku have always imposed certain constraints on apps, what features those constraints enable hosting providers to support, how burdensome those constraints are across different frameworks, and how frameworks that add

Tom Occhino on the future of React

Sep 18 2024 60 mins

Tom Occhino, Chief Product Officer at Vercel and former Engineering Director at Facebook, joins Sam to talk about the pivotal moments in React's history. He talks about how React popularized the ideas of declarative rendering and unidirectional data flow, how GraphQL furthered React's goal of co-locating all the concerns of a particular piece of UI, the problems that GraphQL led to

Render props

Sep 05 2024 34 mins

Sam and Ryan talk about render props in React. They discuss where they came from, how Hooks superseded them for sharing stateful logic, how data attributes compare to them for customizing styling, and how for certain complex components like forms they're still a great solution for accessing slices of internal state.

Controlled and uncontrolled components

Aug 28 2024 47 mins

Sam and Ryan discuss controlled and uncontrolled components in React. They talk about how uncontrolled components can be thought of as components that manage their own internal state, why you should model your complex React components after the simpler APIs of native HTML elements like inputs, why you shouldn't try to make components that are both controlled and uncontrolled, and w

Unstyled React components

Aug 14 2024 34 mins

Sam and Ryan talk about the pattern of building unstyled components with React. They discuss why unstyled components were created, how they improve upon composition patterns from UI libraries like Bootstrap, how they can be used to share behavior and logic without prescribing any styling opinions, and how they fit into a larger collection of React patterns that can be used to build

What is a framework?

Aug 01 2024 62 mins

Sam and Ryan talk about what sorts of capabilities a tool should have to be considered a web framework. They discuss how frameworks tackle the complexity of getting different systems to communicate with each other, how good frameworks embrace the strengths and patterns of the language they're written in, and why frameworks and services are not in opposition to each other.

Crossover: Declaring War Against the Frontend

Jul 25 2024 59 mins

Sam joins Lane Wagner in a crossover episode with the Backend Banter podcast. They talk about abstractions in frontend and backend frameworks, what JavaScript is doing differently from other languages and frameworks, why the frontend should drive the backend even if you're building in a server-side framework, and what's so special about React Server Components.