In 2022, Stig Graham (Anglican) & Jo Mutlow (Humanist) opened up a debate on healthcare chaplaincy through lively dialogue with each other and invited guests. Informed by the realities of current demographics, the ever-evolving NHS, and their own practice, Jo and Stig question assumptions about who claims and controls the chaplaincy discourse. Although their existential beliefs may be different, they share a common understanding of how to deliver differentiated, person-centred, and compassionate care of the human spirit; both are committed to enriching chaplaincy through inclusive practice.