Outer Brightness: From Mormon to Jesus

Dec 11 2023 125 ep. 65 mins 34
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The Outer Brightness Podcast is an ongoing respectful conversation between friends about their transition out of the LDS Church to faith in Jesus alone for salvation. We don't agree on everything, and that's okay. Join us!

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Hope: A Pilgrimage of Memory

Dec 11 2023 53 mins  
This week, we bring you the first of two Christmas episodes. This one is a reading of a Christmas essay that I (Paul) wrote for my fmaily when I was near the end of my time in the LDS Church. I thought that it would be interesting for me and you (our listeners) to revisit it.In the essay, I reference Jimmy Stewart's masterful acting in Mr. Krueger's Christmas. If you haven't seen t

A Different Gospel? Paul’s Epistle to the Galatians for Latter-day Saints (w/ Daniel Ortner)

Nov 19 2023 103 mins  
This episode, we welcomed Daniel Ortner on the program. Daniel has a very interesting story. He was raised in an ethnically Jewish family and converted to Mormonism. In 2023, he began attending a Christian church with his wife and ended up leaving the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints for faith in Christ alone.Daniel is passionate about the Epistle to the Galatians. He jo

Choosing a Church (with Jonathan Stoddard)

Nov 13 2023 58 mins  
In this episode, we welcome Jonathan Stoddard to Outer Brightness: From Mormon to Jesus. Pastor Jon ministers at Jordan Valley Church (Presbyterian Church in America) in West Jordan Utah where I (The Apostate Paul) grew up. He has written a very helpful and accessible book titled, Choosing a Church: A Biblical and Practical Guide aimed at helping those, particularly of an LDS backg

Effective Evangelical Dialogue with Latter-day Saints (w/ Kyle Beshears)

Nov 06 2023 88 mins  
This week we bring you another special guest episode. Kyle Beshears is a pastor in the Mobile, Alabama area and a scholar of Christianity. In his scholarly work, Kyle engages with the broader Latter Day Saint Restoration Movement, and in particular with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day [no hyphen, capital ‘D’] Saints, or the branch of the LDS Movement that followed Jame

Crossover: MBR - Responding to the Mormon Missionary Message Panel Discussion

Oct 31 2023 103 mins  
This week we're publishing a crossover episode. Several coauthors of the book, Responding to the Mormon Missionary Message: Confident Conversations with Mormon Missionaries (and other Latter0day Saints) appeared on Steve Pynakker's Mormon Book Reviews YouTube program. Represented here are Corey Miller, president and CEO of Ratio Christi (ratiochristi.org), Ross Anderson, pastor at

The Harrowing of Hell & Second Chances, Pt. 2

Oct 23 2023 34 mins  
In this episode, Matthew the Nuclear Calvinist and I continue our discussion from last week regarding feed back we received to our Apostles Creed episode.

The Harrowing of Hell & Second Chances, Pt. 1

Oct 19 2023 39 mins  
In this episode, Matthew the Nuclear Calvinist and The Apostate Paul share a conversation they originally had in March of 2022. After discussing an LDS Church sign in that was posted in Arizona, they begin a discussion of the "harrowing of hell" clause in the Apostle's Creed. Latter-day Saint teaching is that between Jesus' death and resurrection, he visited "spirit prison" to begi

The Joseph & Mary Chain

Oct 09 2023 28 mins  
In this episode, Matthew and I revisit an old criticism of the LDS Faith. Namely, that Latter-day Saints worship Joseph Smith. We tackle it by comparing and contrasting with a similar critique that Protestants sometimes make about Roman Catholics with regards to their veneration of Mary. Thus, the Joseph & Mary Chain, a play on the name of the Scottish Rock band, The Jesus &

Listener Feedback & Response: Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God

Oct 02 2023 30 mins  
In this episode we respond to some listener feedback that we received to our Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God episodes (#s 98 & 99). Go give those a listen if you haven't already.A Latter-day Saint listener named David wrote in to challenge and interact with some of the things we said in that episode and with Jonathan Edwards' sermon. We take the time to respond to David's

So You Think You Understand Christianity? (w/ Rich Hoyer)

Sep 25 2023 43 mins  
In this episode, Paul spoke with Rich Hoyer, Senior Minister at Calvary Christian Church in Sellersburg, Indiana. This is Rich's second appearance on Outer Brightness. He joined us previously on Episode 70, "The Importance of Christian Apologetics."Rich wrote a book titled So You Think You Understand Christianity?: Teaching Christianity to a Culture That's Saturated With Misconcept