Talk Out of School

Feb 22 2025 191 ep. 56 mins 9
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Hosted by Leonie Haimson (Class Size Matters), Dr. Kaliris Salas-Ramirez and Daniel Alicea (Educators of NYC)

  Education  Kids & Family  Society & Culture
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A Conversation with UFT presidential candidate, Amy Arundell - Part 1

Feb 22 2025 55 mins  
Daniel interviews interviews Amy Arundell, a Bronx middle school teacher, union organizer and UFT official. In this first part, they discuss her historic decision to run for UFT president in the upcoming UFT election with the A Better Contract slate --emphasizing the need for a more member-driven approach and a unified city labor movement. She also expresses her concerns about th

Audrey Watters on the dangers of using AI in the classroom

Feb 17 2025 60 mins  
After a recap of local and national education news, Leonie spoke to the edtech scholar and critic Audrey Watters about how the growing use of AI in the classroom is undermining learning, privacy & human connection in NYC & globally.

Conversation with Greg Faulkner, Panel for Educational Policy chair

Jan 27 2025 52 mins  
Leonie interviews Greg Faulkner, Chair of the Panel for Educational Policy, NYC’s school board, about the resolution just passed by the PEP in support of undocumented students, as well as his views on the Governor's proposed cell phone ban, student privacy, class size, Mayoral control & other hot button issues, including his intention to make the Panel more responsive to parent &

A Conversation with Paul Egan - Educator, Unionist and former UFT Political Director

Jan 11 2025 53 mins  
Daniel interviews veteran educator, unionist and former political director of the United Federation of Teachers, Paul Egan. We discuss his nearly ten year tenure as the United Federation of Teachers' political director -- from the Bloomberg and Cuomo years to the De Blasio years. Egan dispels the tabloid controversies.

The best and worst in education during 2024, and our hopes for 2025

Jan 08 2025 60 mins  
Leonie, Kaliris and Daniel discuss the best and worst of the year past in terms of education, and share their hopes for the year to come.

What we should fear most from Trump's education policies

Dec 17 2024 60 mins  
After a brief recap of NYC education news, Leonie interviews Jon Valant from the Brookings Institution, who explained what to expect in terms of education policy from the second Trump administration, and what we need to be worried about most.

Concerns with testing: SHSAT, Regents exams, digital SAT, & more with Akil Bello

Nov 25 2024 51 mins  
Leonie interviews Akil Bello, testing expert and critic and Senior Director of Advocacy of the organization of FairTest, Akil explains the problems with the Specialized HS exam and the new digital SAT, and discusses the state’s plans to eliminate Regents exams as a requirement for high school graduation. He also delves into changes over time in the number of test-score optional c

Trans formative Schools

Nov 22 2024 60 mins  
Kaliris interviews Alaina Daniels, Co-Founder & Executive Director of Trans formative Schools, which consists of a team of trans and queer teachers working with students to co-construct schools centering trans joy and social justice. They run an after school program located in District 2 that provides gender affirming spaces for students.

The potential impact of Project 2025 and the Presidential elections on our schools

Nov 05 2024 60 mins  
After a recap of recent NYC education news, Leonie replays the interview from July with Carol Burris, Executive Director of the Network for Public Education, who compares education platforms of Donald Trump and Kamala Harris, and explains what Project 2025 would mean for our public schools.

Billionaire-backed bigots on NYC Community Education Councils

Oct 28 2024 60 mins  
Community Education Council members from Queens and Manhattan share how they navigate their right-wing council members. They also talk about the Hedge Clippers report that exposes, and also connects, right-wing council members to racist billionaires and how their platforms are funded.