That Don’t Fit

In this episode we continue our occasional conversations with folks from a variety of backgrounds on their thoughts and experiences around ethnic harmony. We interview Nathan and Catherine Gin, whose Chinese/Swiss/American backgrounds have given them a distinct view on how to think about ethnicity and culture. As a bonus we get stories about Nelson Mandela and bowling at the White

In this episode we talk about a topic that is a passion for JT and a chore for Andy. That’s working out. If you want to see generational differences at work, check out this episode.

In this episode we try to get a handle on how we get our news and how we make sense of what we get. This isn’t a ‘hot takes’ debate. It is two guys who want to stay up to date with what’s going on, but who don’t want to be buried under an avalanche of information and opinions in the process.

In this episode we interview Jorge Pardo, a man from Puerto Rico of Spanish and Cuban descent. Jorge talks about his cultural heritage and being a Latino in non-Latino spaces, and how he navigates that experience as a follower of Christ.

JT and Andy talk about crying - why we do it and what it does for us. This isn’t a conversation about sorrow or grief - it’s a conversation about the crazy ways our bodies work that produces the experience of crying. Paradoxically, we laugh a lot in this episode.

JT and Andy catch up after a break in recording episodes to talk about what they've been doing, what they are currently listening to and reading, and they drop into a conversation about the value of friendship for those who are in ministry.

Andy and JT discuss the practice, challenges and glories of prayer and how they have been inspired to pray by the experience and words of others. Quotes: C. S. Lewis: "Well, let’s now at any rate come clean. Prayer is irksome. An excuse to omit it is never unwelcome. When it is over, this casts a feeling of relief and holiday over the rest of the day. We are reluctant to begi

Recently we had a chance to sit down with pastor, author and urban entrepreneur John Onwuchekwa for a conversation about building healthy church communities in urban areas and a bunch of other things that came up.

This is the second part of our interview with Eric McAllister, Director of Music and Liturgy at High Point Baptist Church in Austin Texas. In this episode, Eric walks us through his vision for creativity and theological depth as we gather to worship as the church.

In the next two episodes we interview Eric McAllister, Director of Music and Liturgy at High Point Baptist Church in Austin Texas. Through his ministry Sunday Morning Songs, Eric is also creating modern hymnody to help churches experience richly theological and culturally diverse congregational singing as the gathered church.