Welcome to the Denker Capital podcast, where we have conversations about South African and global investment-related topics with experts in their fields. Brought to you by Denker Capital, Cape Town-based global investment manager, passionate about discovering investment opportunities in South Africa and around the world. This podcast is hosted by Denker Capital's Head of Sales, Nigel Barnes. The opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the participants and do not necessarily represent those of Denker Capital. This podcast does not take the circumstances of a particular person or entity into account and is not advice in relation to an investment. Please do not rely on any information without appropriate advice from an independent financial adviser. The value of investments may go down as well as up, and past performance is not a guide to future performance. Denker Capital is an authorised financial services provider in South Africa.