The RunOut Podcast

Dec 09 2024 140 ep. 62 mins 1.2k

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Chris Kalous (The Enormocast) and Andrew Bisharat (Evening Sends) are talking to the best and most interesting people in climbing. Now clip your last piece and dig in...

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RunOut #138: The Bromance of Tommy Caldwell and Alex Honnold

Dec 09 2024 77 mins

Today’s guest is climbing's Captain America, Tommy Cadlwell. Tommy’s latest film is called The Devil’s Climb, and it documents an epic adventure in which he and Alex Honnold rode their bike’s to Alaska and enchained all the summits on the striking and infamous Devil’s Thumb massif. The film was pitched as an environmental film, but the directors decided that global warmi

RunOut 137: The Revelations of Jerry Moffatt

Today we’re honored to be speaking with Jerry Moffatt. Jerry was one of the most influential and best climbers in the 1980s and ‘90s, whose groundbreaking first ascents pushed the limits and also was incredibly influential on the direction of our sport. His autobiography Revelations is one of the best climbing books ever, and a must read for everyone who listens to this show.

RunOut 136: Brady Robinson on Climbing, Advocacy, and the legacy of Armando Menocal

Oct 31 2024 84 mins

Armando Menocal was a civil rights lawyer and climber who helped found the Access Fund. It’s safe to say that without Armando’s silent but hugely significant contributions, climbing would look very different today. Sadly, Armando recently died at the age of 83 from cancer. Here today to help memorialize Armando is Armando’s friend and colleague Brady Robinson. Brady is the f

RunOut #135: Becca Steinbrecher: What it’s Like to Survive a Serious Climbing Accident

Oct 18 2024 71 mins

Last year, Becca Steinbrecher broke a foothold while climbing in the Black Canyon of the Gunnison and took a 30-foot fall onto a ledge. It was only a couple of months later that Becca woke up and learned what had happened to her that day, including the heroic and miraculous search and rescue operation that navigated a thorny web of very tough decisions in order to get her out of t

RunOut #134: The State of Adventure and Storytelling with Fitz Cahall

Oct 02 2024 64 mins

Fitz Cahall is the founder of the Dirtbag Diaries, a podcast that’s been downloaded over 18 million times. His new book is “States of Adventure: 30 outdoor adventure stories about finding yourself by getting lost.” But first, childless cat ladies may be a topic for some politicians, but we look at the childless climbers bringing their cats to the crags. Suffice to say, cr

RunOut #133: Olympic Runner and Rock Climber Hobbs Kessler

Sep 20 2024 74 mins

Hobbs Kessler is a 21-year-old professional runner who ran a 3:34 in the 1500m in his senior year of high school. He has also climbed as hard as 5.14c with an ascent of Southern Smoke in the Red River Gorge. Hobbs just returned from the Paris Olympics, where he competed in both the 800 and 1500m races. But first, your curmudgeonly hosts roll their eyes at one of climbing’s mo

RunOut #132: Amity Warme is Bringing Stoke—and Style—Back to Climbing

Sep 02 2024 75 mins

Amity Warme is a professional rock climber and dietician, who has not only free climbed El Capitan five times, but has done so each time in true ground-up style. This ground-up style is captured in an awesome new film that tells the story Amity and Brent Barghahn’s ground-up free ascent of El Niño via the Pineapple Express Variation on El Capitan. Our conversation ranges from b

RunOut #131: Drew Ruana Climbs Hard and Thinks Ahead

Aug 19 2024 80 mins

Out #131: Drew Ruana Climbs Hard and Thinks Ahead Drew Ruana started climbing on the slabs of Smith Rock, and has since become one of America’s most prolific boulderers, with over 100 V14 and harder problems ticked. He’s currently a student at the Colorado School of Mines, and thinking ahead of what kind of career he wants in life, and how climbing fits into it all. But

RunOut #130: Thomas Huber Unleashes Freedom on America

Jul 31 2024 79 mins

Thomas Huber is our favorite Huber brother—no offense to Alex. He needs little introduction, and is one of the most prolific climbers of the last 30 years thanks to a resume that includes establishing some of the best free climbs on El Capitan and across Europe, to winning the Piolet d’Or for his bold alpine ascents, to being a member of the beloved Stone Monkeys. His new book

RunOut #129: Olympic Fever; Plus: When Climbers Become Parents with Allyson Gunsallus

Jul 24 2024 71 mins

Allyson Gunsallus is a climber and lawyer who serves on the board of the American Alpine Club. She is also the producer and director of Hand Holds, a new film interview series providing resources for climbing parents. Our conversation explores how climbing parents navigate the risks inherent to our sport with the demands of their new identity, not to mention the little person in t