The Trial

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The Trial goes behind the headlines of some of the biggest trials in the world.
We take you into the courtroom, bringing you the detail as the evidence unfolds, examining key moments and carrying out exclusive interviews with detectives, victims, and experts.
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Constance Marten and Mark Gordon: The jury retires

Apr 30 2024 17 mins  
In this episode Caroline and Jack bring you the moment the Judge, Mark Lucraft KC sent the jury out to start their deliberations. After more than three months of hearing evidence the decisions are now up to them. Before he did this he reminded the jury of the key evidence in the case and what they need to consider during their deliberations. Legal expert David Banks also walks us t

Constance Marten and Mark Gordon: The Judge

Apr 24 2024 11 mins  
In this episode Caroline and Jack bring you the Judge, Mark Lucraft KC. His job now, at the end of this trial, is to sum up this case, to remind the jury of the evidence they've heard. Today he reminded them what Constance Marten had told them as she spent several days in the witness box. He also referred to the evidence from the two pathologists who had told them Victoria's body w

Constance Marten and Mark Gordon: ‘Are any of these things criminal?’

Apr 18 2024 28 mins  
In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the closing speech of Constance Marten's barrister, Francis Fitzgibbon KC, as he urged jurors to acquit her of the killing of her baby, Victoria. He told the Old Bailey 'the evidence isn't there' to convict the aristocrat and her partner Mark Gordon over Victoria's death and accused the prosecution of describing the baby as 'it' which, h

Constance Marten & Mark Gordon: It was a tragic accident

Apr 17 2024 29 mins  
In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the defence closing speech made on behalf of Mark Gordon by John Femi-Ola KC. He describes Constance Marten as a 'lioness' protecting her cubs and said the death of Baby Victoria was a 'tragic accident'. The episode also features the end of prosecutor Tom Little KC's closing speech.Warning: This podcast references court proceedings

Constance Marten & Mark Gordon: Big Fat Lies

Apr 16 2024 39 mins  
In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the closing speech of the Prosecutor Tom Little KC. He told the jury Constance Marten had told “big fat lies” in her defence. Lies, he said, which “fell like confetti from her lips”. And he said despite Mark Gordon “grandstanding” to police about his “rights” he had refused to give evidence when the moment arrived. He sai

Constance Marten & Mark Gordon: The Private Detectives

Apr 12 2024 13 mins  
In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you more of the tense exchange between Professor Peter Fleming and Tom Little KC. The court has also been told that Constance Marten’s parents did hire private investigators to try to track her down, but they said this was not when she was on the run with baby Victoria.Warning: This podcast references court proceedings which detail th

Coming Soon: The Apple & The Tree

Apr 11 2024 1 mins  
Launching Friday 19th April, Vogue Williams hosts The Apple and The Tree, a brand new podcast where a parent and their adult child get to ask each other about the parts of their shared history they’ve always wanted to know more about, but never given themselves the time to do so. These are deep, intimate and revealing conversations that move through love, grief, shame, sexuality,

Constance Marten & Mark Gordon: "No evidence of hypothermia"

Mar 29 2024 25 mins  
In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you a key witness in the defence case of Constance Marten - an expert who investigates the unexpected death of babies. Prof Peter Fleming told the court he thought Constance Marten’s account was ‘extraordinarily consistent’ and cast doubt on how the prosecution say Baby Victoria died.Warning: This podcast references court proceedi

Constance Marten and Mark Gordon: “Whatever you do, don’t say she died in your arms.”

Mar 26 2024 23 mins  
In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the final day of Constance Marten’s evidence from the witness box as she told jurors she had wanted to get an autopsy for her baby in the hope she would find the death wasn’t her fault. The episode also features her claim that she had neglected herself to the point of exhaustion in trying to look after Baby Victoria - and it was this

Constance Marten & Mark Gordon: ‘Jesus survived in a barn’

Mar 15 2024 37 mins  
In this episode, Caroline and Jack will bring you the latest from the evidence of Constance Marten, as she defended her decision to take her newborn baby into a tent in the middle of winter - saying that 'Jesus survived in a barn'. The episode will also feature claims that a man Constance Marten said inspired her plan to flee abroad has also used his website to encourage children t