Sep 04 2024 69 mins 5
Disclaimer: This interview is for information purposes only and does not condone or promote the use of illegal drugs. This is re-telling of someone's story and of data readily available in the public domain. You take responsibility for your choices.
Psychedelics is a topic I've been wanting to cover for a long time, and after getting so much feedback on the amazing transformations with micro-dosing, I was determined to get an expert on the topic on the show.
And after doing the work for 16 years, Kole Whitty is indeed an expert who has not only healed on many levels with her psychedelic teachers, but she speaks to it from a fully embodied experience dripping with wisdom.
She knows their power and respects them fully as allies in moving relationship with self and others forward. Kole and her husband Tah literally built their relationship through psychedelic experiences.
Now Kole and Tah coach the coaches to help people integrate with their experiences. The world of psychedelics is far beyond simply interesting and cool experiences... they are an ally in knowing yourself, but it takes complete self-responsibility, willingness to feel what you may not want to feel and to integrate the experience into lasting change.
I have witnessed the transformative power so many times of these wise teachers and now it's time to start his conversation here.
In this interview, Kole tells about:
- Her route to finding psychedelics after growing up Mormon, experiencing assaults on her sexuality as a young girl and the resulting shame, going through a troubled youth and surviving a coma
- How Kole became the poster child for educating against drug abuse and how shame drove her to succeed and find purpose
- How she was very ill and in severe pain by the age of 26
- How psychedelics gave her the entry point to be able to talk to her body
- The moment that opened up to considering these substances as a path to healing
- How changing her lifestyle habits brought 60% resolution in her symptoms but she knew there was more to do despite what the 'authorities' were telling her
- Her first experience with MDS (sassafras)
- How Kole overcame the belief: "once an addict, always an addict"
- The patterns Kole started to identify between her life, unresolved emotions and her pain
- The most dysfunctional part of using psychedelics that Kole sees
- Microdosing being a sub-perceptual amount of substance
- The different ways of dosing mushrooms
- The work of Baba Kilindi Iyi
- The reminder that one can always add to their dose, but not take away, so be cautious
- The idea of writing a letter to the substance you are going to take, to treat it as a partner
- How mushrooms will humble you
- How coming in with the attitude of getting a quick fix can backfire
- The concept of 'psychetecture'
- How trauma is a response in the body NOT an event
- Precautions to consider before going after the 'big' traumas
- Approaching micro and macro doses with the same care
- Instinct vs. intuition
- How Dr. Erica Zelfand does not take patients off SSRIs to work with psilocybin
- The western mindset vs. tribal mindset
- How mushrooms are like a 'volume' button
- How Kole's inner work led her out of pain, prescriptions and procedures
- How Kole and Tah built their relationship in psychedelic experiences
- How Kole retrieved her innocence in a journey
- How your experiences impact the field
- How through the work you go back to your experiences to re-see them through a different lens
- Tips for micro-dosing
- 2 people to follow: James Fademan and Shawn Wells
- Taking responsibility for the western emotions before going to the jungle or tribal areas
- There is NO on way or one substance, it is a path
- and more!
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